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New life plans

Sapphire Jan 4, 2017

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  1. Sapphire

    Sapphire dddddd

    Oct 3, 2016
    You know, it doesn't seem to matter what you decide to do, there are always things that get in the way.

    Right now, my current situation isn't much good, and things need to change if I am to have anything of a decent life. I kind of messed things up quite badly for myself, not going to university 5-6 years ago has left me in a difficult position now in my mid twenties, and I honestly wish I just had the foresight and sense to go to university back then. No matter, nothing can be done about that now, and there is still something that can be done.

    Primarily, my working life has consisted of law up until now, even though law has never been something of great interest to me but it is something I could do and do well, and it is all I really have to work with right now. So, as you might expect, I have thought to study for a law degree and build up to become a solicitor. From there, I could then specialise in particular fields of law that I am interested in, and perhaps gain higher degrees at a later stage.

    Of course, looking into it, it is easier said than done. I looked into gaining a degree part time, to make it easier on myself given I would have to work whilst learning, and found that it would take me until I was 34 years old at least, some 10 years or more, before I would complete all my courses and qualify as a solicitor. People might say that this isn't as bad a situation as it could have been, but, to me, this is 15 years of my life wasted all because of one stupid mistake I made when I was a teenager. It's just so much time wasted. So, instead, I have looked into completing my courses full time, reducing the number of years down to 6, and I would be 30 when I eventually qualify. It is a bit better, which is the best I can hope for with that route.

    Though, of course, I know some people in the legal profession that would tell me that this is a waste of time and money. Back when I worked for the law firm, someone there to which I was friends with often told me that law degrees and qualifications are barely worth the paper they are written on, and it comes down far more to whether someone is competent and able to do a job than what fancy degrees they have. Sounds good, doesn't it? Trouble is, how do you get such jobs without the degrees? How is an employer going to trust that you know what you are talking about without the qualifications to prove it?

    There is another possibility, but it is rather restrictive. I am already qualified to practice law; Health and Safety Law. I could scrap the law degree in favour of a NEBOSH Diploma that would place me in a higher grade than I am in now, the Certificate grade, and it only need to take a few years to complete; it's eLearning and can do it whilst you work, or, at least, that is what my boss was doing. I prefer classroom study, myself. They say you can complete the qualification in a year, but only if that is all you ever need to do; it's inadvisable to rush it like that, especially if you need to work. To be honest, I was as qualified as my boss when I left the law firm; he just had more experience than me, which made all the difference. And NEBOSH is a body recognised globally. I did, still do, have the idea to potentially move to America one day, if the United States could offer a better career there than what I could build here in the UK. The mainland cannot offer me anything, and the UK is a small country with limited opportunities. America is far bigger and wealthier society, and could provide so much more in regards to opportunities. NEBOSH is also the gold standard of Health and Safety qualifications; it makes a career easier to have one than any alternative does.

    The only reservation I have with Health and Safety law is that it is only one area of law, and it is not particularly useful for anything other than Health and Safety legal practice. I wanted more choice, in case a job in Health and Safety was not readily available, but perhaps I could work to the top grade instead; gain a NEBOSH Masters Degree. It would all come down to which of the two courses I would learn; the National or International qualifications. If I want a potential career in the US, then the International version would probably be best. I will have to look into it more.

    Of course, it matters not what qualifications I have since companies are far more interested in my work history and legal practice than what I have in degrees when it comes to Health and Safety law; the qualifications are what get you the interview, but your experience gets you the job. Though, it would not be a bad area of law to specialise in, and I did like Health and Safety law; helping to keep people safe and healthy and alive while they work for a living, who could argue with that? If it helps keep people safe and helps companies retain valuable staff, then it is worthwhile even if people roll their eyes whenever they hear 'Health and Safety' being mentioned.

    As a final note, one other area to consider, there is also my books. The likelihood of making a career out of writing and publishing books is slim, but still possible. No one gets anywhere in life without trying different things, after all. But it can take a full year to write a book, and you need both the determination and the time to write one. Still, something to consider, however unlikely a desirable result might be. Should I be fortunate, or unfortunate depending on the situation, enough that I could take a year off working at some point then it would be certainly worth doing to write a novel.

    I write these things on this thread not only to vent but also to gather my thoughts, I find writing helps like that, and even I know what is the better option here. I have already started with Health and Safety law, Britain is globally recognised for it's Health and Safety standards, and I would have far better luck with that than trying for a law degree; saving me precious years of study for something that might become useless if things go badly. Trouble is, I don't have much experience in practicing Health and Safety law, and that is the only drawback here. I will have to see if there might be some way to gain experience, perhaps volunteer work or free Health and Safety legal advice to non-profit charities and the like, just to give me some practice.

    Anyway, should you have read through this whole post, then you must have an interest in what I should do here. If you have any comments then do let me know. Otherwise, thanks for reading through my rambles. :smile:
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2017
  2. ZeroW0lf

    ZeroW0lf Member

    Oct 14, 2016
    Two things.

    1) Everyone older than me by a significant margin always tells me to go and get whatever degree(s) i plan to before entering the workforce because life gets in the way of further schooling in 90% of cases.

    2) If you want to make a career for yourself in America, take advantage of the many grants and privilidges that our government grants to non-citizens, that we ourselves cannot take advantage of. You could probably get a lot of assistance in paying for said further schooling, or even a grant to open your own hotel. Seriously, I know a guy.
  3. White Timberwolf

    White Timberwolf dddd

    Oct 4, 2016
    Sapphire, I'll say this from my limited in corporate experience and educational degree. A job or career that is interesting you may like to see a fancy degree or certification to qualify a person at first, but it pales in comparison to what someone with a strong, beneficial work ethic and a usable knowledge can do. You said it yourself, '.... degrees and qualifications are barely worth the paper they are written on, and it comes down far more to whether someone is competent and able to do a job than what fancy degrees they have.'

    This is true even here in America. Earlier this day, I had a meeting with a regional manager for a company close to my current home for possible employment within. He asked me what professional or educational experience in the field was, and I replied honestly with none at a professional level, and limited from an educational standpoint. From there I gave a short but thoughtful thought trailer to it, in the form of '..... But how does that compare to someone who has proven to show up every day, on time, with a willingness to learn and complete every task assigned?' He replied, 'I like that attitude. We need more like you around here.'

    What helps to place your foot in the door, so to speak, is a degree. But what sets you apart from all the others with degrees, is how you can apply your knowledge and life skills to the job to benefit not only yourself, but your employer as well.

    Take this with a bit more than just a grain of salt though. I'm not educated far beyond what I am curious about, nor am I a professional by any means. This is just how I feel, with a bit of thought as to how you can use it, to show yourself above the others. UK, US, Italy, Russia, the country means little to a company, but how you can benefit the company in your role, well, that's determined by how well you've worked before and how you show more than just a piece of paper with a qualification written on it.
  4. calm melody

    calm melody Member

    Oct 3, 2016
    snow leopard, or mlp pegasus.
    I'm going to admit that I haven't fully read your post as of the moment I'm making this post Sapphire, but I'm 36 years old, and I still haven't gotten to college/university yet. I'm planning on starting sometime between now and the end of this year. That said, I would advise you to look into exactly what you want to study, and make sure that it will end in gainful employment. There are a LOT of degrees that are pretty much useless when it comes to finding a job/career. I've seen a lot of people go to school for 4-8 years, for something that *should* have landed them a great job, only to find that the market for that job was over saturated, or had just completely died out. So before you risk getting 20k-100k into debt, research what fields you have interest in, and make sure that they're viable.
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